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11 March 2010 by verb [ICT] staff 48 Comments

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Guest post by Ryan Unruh

“Don’t you know I’m still standing better than I ever did. Lookin’ like a true survivor, feelin’ like a little kid.” – Bernie Taupin via Elton John

She wasn’t sure about all the words, but then again “Roy Cohn, Jaun Peron, Toscanini, Dancron” isn’t the catchiest lyric. Sarah Kallail improvised what she didn’t know from “We Didn’t Start the Fire,” dancing and singing in unison (kinda) with her friends while Billy Joel pounded a piano and chanted random cultural references 100-yards below.

It was pretty much what the girls had pictured when they bought their tickets to the Joel and Elton John concert three months ago. The past week had yielded countless Billy/Elton playlists and lyrical status updates. Now, finally, they soaked it in and let it all out, reciprocating the Piano Man’s energy from their $100 nosebleeds.

A few verses in, their fire was fought with the beam of a flashlight. From the entrance to their section, a police officer pointed his finger to the ground and mouthed the words “sit down.” They obeyed, a little confused, a little embarrassed. They had quit singing by the time Joel got to “BELGIANS IN THE CONGO!”

Kallail felt deflated. “I didn’t realize we we’re the only ones standing,” she says. “We weren’t trying to ruin anyone’s time. We were just thrilled to be there.”

Sitting seemed to be the preferred position amongst the 15-thousand piano-pop fans packed into Intrust Bank Arena on March 3. Other than the elated first few rows, the crowd was glued to their chairs throughout. That’s in part because police officers prowled the bowl during the show, putting the clamps on any one who tried to give them the stand-up routine.

“We got a sitting ovation,” jokes Kyle Foreman. People around his floor seats clapped when an officer ordered him to sit. “They were more excited about that than Crocodile Rock.”

Foremen’s well aware some people may prefer to do their hoppin’ and boppin’ from that folding chair they paid good money for. “I’m sure there were people complaining about us on their drive home,” he says. “But Billy and Elton were putting on a great show and we wanted to show our appreciation.”

Sarah concurs. “I don’t want to ruin it for someone, but at a concert, the artist is trying to get the audience on their feet.”

Sarah Haertl, the Arena’s director of sales and marketing, says there’s no venue policy on standing vs. sitting. “We take directions from the show. Our goal is to make the show and the ticket holders as happy as possible.” She declined to say what, if any, directions Joel/John promoters gave regarding the issue.

With the Arena bringing in concerts Wichitans haven’t seen the likes of in decades, the issue of standing vs. sitting needs to be addressed. But it should be up to us, not the Arena or promoters, to develop an accepted etiquette. We’re the ones paying the big bucks, after all.

Sound off Wichita. Is it ever ok to stand at an Arena concert? Always ok? Does it matter where you’re sitting? Does the song matter? Sit for “Candle in the Wind,” set the dance alight for “Saturday Night’s Alright”?

Tell us about the buzz-kill cop who ruined your Jovi experience or the drunken Brad Paisley fan who made you wish you hadn’t dropped a bill-plus to sit behind him. Hopefully we can get the issue ironed out before the dulcet tones of Michael Buble spark some kind of sitters vs. standers showdown. His fans are supposedly very big on energy reciprocation.

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48 Comments »

  • Steph Barnard said:

    I just can’t believe that people don’t think you stand at a concert. That’s just… how it’s done. This is nuts.

    If you want to have a world-class concert venue, Wichita, you have to do it the way the other concert venues of the world do it. I have a hard time believing Elton and Billy had anything to do with this.

  • Carly said:

    You want to sit down? Save your money, stay home and listen to the CD in the comfort of your recliner and go to bed promptly at 7pm, Gramps. Concerts are for standing and dancing. There is no debate here. This had better be worked out before Pat Benatar comes because if anyone tells me to sit down we will have problems.

  • Kelly said:

    I’ve had this discussion several times this week. I’ve listened to people complain about the seats at the arena and the sitting/standing issue. What I continue to point out is that you are AT A CONCERT! Just get over it!

    Like Carly said, if you want to sit down, stay home and listen to the radio! I have a reasonable expectation that if I’m on the floor, I’ll be standing. So, to complain that people are standing on the floor is just ridiculous!

  • Shea Sylvia said:

    My friend and I were actually shushed by the couple next to us at the Elton/Billy concert last week. SHUSHED. At a concert. Where we were surrounded by 15,000 other screaming people. We could barely hear each other when we were laughing/talking about the show. When the woman leaned over and asked if we could keep it down, I was FLOORED. She continued to give the stink eye to anyone standing or having a good time.

    It’s a concert. People will dance. People will sing. People will get up and buy beer and then get up to go to the bathroom. And then repeat the pattern. If you don’t like it, go home.

  • Jana Curl said:

    For reals – this issue just makes me steam. Sit at a concert? That’s like going to a restaurant and not eating or getting on a treadmill and not moving – it is POINTLESS! The only town that I have ever been to a concert in where people didn’t stand is Wichita. It was Journey circa 1998ish. Sitting down during Don’t Stop Believin was SO painful. But the people around us were pissed when we stood so we sat. What do you do 99% of the time when music of any kind is played – you dance. Or at the very least you sway. Neither of these can be done while sitting. If I was a musician and played for a crowd and they sat down the whole time I would say thank you good night after my first set.
    SO STAND UP YOU LAME-O’s (sorry that is a bit harsh)! And I am telling you if someone tells me to sit down tonight at Bon Jovi during Born To Be My Baby we are going to have problems. Big a** problems.

  • Jared said:

    Stand – of course!

    Believe it or not, There used to be, standing, cheering, drinking, smoking, spitting and (at times) even food throwing at 17th and 18th century classical music concerts. Somewhere in between, the setting dried up. Is it really going to be so dry at INTRUST? I’m not going to pay $60+ to see Dave Matthews and just patiently tap my toe in my seat.

    Maybe a meet in the middle solution is a distinction between seated and standing sections?

  • Carreen said:

    I’ve never had a problem with standing. If the people in front of me stand, I’ll stand. If they’re seated, I’ll stay seated so the people behind me can see (if they are also seated). I felt like at Billy Joel/Elton John though that the performers were trying to get everyone on their feet and people were staying seated… Felt a little bad for them in that case. I don’t think they had a thing to do with making people stay seated.

    I also wonder if sometimes it’s a safety issue. Where we were sitting for BJ/EJ was in some of the highest seats in the house. It’s very steep, stadium seating. After walking up what felt like endless stairs, I felt a little uneasy when we walked down the aisle to get to our seats in the middle of the row. One guy practically hugged us everytime he walked down to and from his seat which was probably three times. I couldn’t help but think that if I fell, it would cause a dominoe effect.

    So, do check out the nosebleed seats before thinking everyone should stand. It really is WAY up there.

  • Tim said:

    It’s not about whether it will be allowed. You try telling 10,000 rock fans to sit down and see how far you get. If you seriously want to try to win that battle, I hope you learn something. Fascist.

    Quit whining and stand up or go home.

  • Josh said:

    I don’t go to concerts. That’s just the way it is. Too much money to pay to deal with thousands of people that I would rather not be in the same building as. The only exceptions are local talent and outdoor concerts.

    However, I will chime in as well. This is simple. The people who designed Intrust made the seats way, way, WAY too small for any average to above average citizen. When I went to the opening night of the Thunder game, I was wedged in so tight that I didn’t dare have any beer for fear that I would have to unwedge myself to use the restroom. NO BEER AT A HOCKEY GAME! Can you imagine?

    I say take the seats all out completely and just have a venue where you can walk freely. Put up a perimeter bar and a few pool tables. . . or better yet, maybe I’ll just stick to bars.

    Sorry, guess I wasn’t much help.

  • Ryan said:

    Isn’t it kinda majority rule? If everyone else in your section is seated, do you have the right to go against the grain at the expense of other concertgoers?

  • Shayna said:

    I have no issue with standing at concerts. What I do have a problem with is making the floor General Admission as they are doing for the Dave Matthews Band show in August. Have you been to a DMB concert? Have you dealt with the drunken frat boys? IT’s NOT FUN! Making the floor GA makes it mandatory to stand and deal with not having your own “space” is going to be the most unplesant concert experience, ever.

  • Carreen said:

    Shea, I think I would have told her NO, I can’t keep it down. I sang practically every song throughout the concert and I’m pretty sure the people around me couldn’t even hear it. So, yeah, complaining about noise levels at a concert… RIDICULOUS…

  • Dani M. Stone said:

    Say it aint so, Wichita, say it aint so. Police who roam the Intrust Arena to “shhh” people and tell them to SIT? What is this madness?

    If you’re at a venue to watch a play, a movie or a screechy middle school band concert you sit, then rise at the end for polite appropriate applause. If you’re at a venue to watch a concert however, you better get your butt out of that seat.

    Typically I don’t dance or sing outside the comfort zone of my home or car, really, it’s better for everyone that way, but tonight when I go to the Arena to see BonJovi, it’s awwwn. In the 20+ years I’ve been a fan, this will be just my third time to see them live. I was a fan when it was cool to be, and when it wasn’t so cool to be one.
    Their music is the soundtrack of my youth and each song seems to have a story tied to it.

    There’s only one thing left to say and I’ll let Ren from Footloose say it, “Ecclesiastes assures us… that there is a time for every purpose under heaven. A time to laugh… and a time to weep. A time to mourn… and there is a time to dance. And there was a time for this law, but not anymore. See, this is our time to dance. It is our way of celebrating life. It’s the way it was in the beginning. It’s the way it’s always been. It’s the way it should be now.”

    To the people in Row 104L. I’ll just go ahead and let you know now, this girl is gonna stand and she’s gonna dance. Join me.

  • Missy said:

    I agree with the majority of posts above, that if you expect to sit and listen to the concert all night with no distractions, then stay home, and listen to the CD or head for the symphony or opera. The Intrust Arena floor seats are way too small to sit in comfortably if you weigh more than 100lbs, but the rows are also so close together that you can barely stand facing front and there is very little room to move around without bumping your knees on your own chair and falling over or onto the person in front of you. Both issues need to be fixed. Neither option is comfortable. I think you should expect to stand for the majority of any concert, anywhere, and only sit when you need a break or are willing to just sit and listen and not worry about if you can see or not. Ruining someone elses experience because you want to sit “undisturbed” is not acceptable, and if you dont like people standing in front of you then pony up for better seats where you won’t have that problem. Or stay home ya big whiners. I doubt I will go to any Intrust Arena events where you have to sit the whole time, simply because of the squinched conditions. If I can’t stand some of the time, I won’t go.

  • megan said:

    I was also told to sit down at the Billy Joel/Elton John Concert, but the song directly following the order, I was up again. I paid $100 dollars for my ticket and was not about to let the “sitters” in my section bring me down. If they couldn’t see, they should have stood up and cheered along with me. It’s what happens at a concert, for Pete’s sake!

  • Jan R. said:

    Who are these people who insist on remaining sedentary at a friggin concert??? Is Wichita full of Amish? Quakers? Come on! Stand up! It might be the only exercise you’re getting all week! At the Buble concert I plan on standing and swaying and singing to the music and – say it with me: en-joy-ing-my-self. Yeah. If someone shushes me or tells me to sit down when it’s an energetic, fun song and Michael is calling for participation? Well, I turn 32 the day of the concert, so I plan on calling forth my inner birthday diva. She is very grumpy with kill-joys. Just sayin’…

  • Sarah K said:

    Nice article Ryan!

    I actually think part of the issue is generational. I understand if you are older and physically CAN’T stand up or are uncomfortable doing so. That would be frustrating to not be able to stand and have people blocking your view. However, the younger crowd is going to get up and dance and yell and have fun. It is a concert after all.

  • Timothy K said:

    First, great article Ryan. Well done sir.

    My wife and I went to the Billy/Elton concert and our initial seats were in the area that comes with complementary sherpas and oxygen containers and I wouldn’t have felt comfortable standing up there because one false move and you’re a headline on CNN.

    However due to the graciousness of Billy and Elton we got free upgrades to FAR superior seats. I’m glad to say that the lower section behind the stage were rockin’ most of everyone was up dancing, singing, drinking and having a blast if there were killjoys they were drowned out by the singing, laughter and over all jubilation that the two performers brought to us…. oh wait it’s a concert that’s the way it’s supposed to go. So to echo Miss Carly above if you want to listen to your music and not have to stand or be deal with the joy the music produces put your head phones in and you might get in a couple of songs before Matlock comes on.

  • Jenelle said:

    Thank you for addressing this!! I got yelled at to sit down more than once and I was in about the 15th row right on the side of the stage. I had AWESOME seats and paid good money for my tickets. If you wanted to sit down with your purse in your lap and just bop your head to some music then buy the CD! Don’t go to a flipping concert and expect to be able to sit down the entire time!!

    And BTW…when he sang “i’m still standing”, you know I stood the ENTIRE song even though people were complaining and when he was done with the song I yelled at the top of my lungs, “I’m still standing bitches!!”

  • Kendra said:

    STAND UP!

    I can’t believe this is even an issue. I am an avid concert goer. One year I clocked in a good 30 concerts in one year (it was a good year…hehe) and standing, dancing, screaming…it was all part of the experience.

    I personally prefer the concerts that have no seating and are general admission which allows me the chance to work/shove my way to the front (oh Muse concert…how many bruises did I get from thee)…but I can understand how that wouldn’t be everyone’s cup o’ tea.

    In all…I think if you paid money (and sometimes a lot of money) to see a show, you should be allowed to stand and enjoy it if you want to. Plus…for the short people like me, whatever I can do to soak in the experience more…let me do it! (and arena cops?…really?)

    :D

  • Heidi said:

    Well, heck…it’s not like you’re at the symphony. Geesh. I saw ppl dancing and singing all over the place. I never noticed anyone forcing them to stand down. I’m actually surprised to hear of these experiences.

    I had a cold that night. Couldn’t sing or yell for fear of a coughing spell onset – my neighbors wouldn’t appreciate that by any means.

    I say let me them sing and dance. That’s what music does! What is this, “Footloose”?

  • Kristy said:

    So if you don’t stand up through a concert, you’re a killjoy who’s out to ruin everyone else’s fun and you should be content with staying home and listening to a cd? Come on. Everyone experiences concerts in a different way, and to imply that if you’re not standing, you’re not doing it RIGHT is ridiculous. I was at the BJ/EJ concert as well, and clear up in the area where, like Tim said, you needed a sherpa and an oxygen tank. I was smack in the middle of a row and wouldn’t have been comfortable standing, since with one false move, I could’ve been tumbling down several rows with no warning. Everyone around me was sitting, and I wasn’t bothered by that. If this makes me an inadequate and lousy concert-goer, I guess that’s just the way it is, but I think it’s slightly unreasonable to say “stand up or get the hell out,” without acknowledging that the way the person next to you shows his/her appreciation might not mesh with the way you do.

  • Kristin said:

    Stand up Wichita!!

    I have been to 3 concerts at the Intrust Bank Arena, Brad Paisley, George Stait, and Elton John..all of which STANDING vs Sitting has been a problem.

    Regardless of where the seats have been, top to bottom…people are complaining about standing concert goers. I mean come on people..we paid to see a concert, not a movie!!! After being asked first by an aisle attendent, then asked a second time by security to sit during #1 hit songs….many of my friends refuse to go back till there is change!!

    We need the option of standing at a concert…WHERE is the option for STANDNG SECTIONS..the best of both worlds…it is insane to think so many people in Wichita refuse to stand at a music event….especially ones costing $75+ a ticket.

  • Ryan said:

    Kristy is correct. Everybody has the right to enjoy the show how they please.

    But Kristin (below her) brings up a good point. Apparently, the experiences in the article are common. The Arena needs to address this. It would be great if there were a designated standing area. At the very least, the Arena should let ticket buyers know their rules before they spend a hundred bucks.

    I brought this up to Sarah Haertl at the arena. She replied via email: “I don’t see the sitting versus standing issue as something I need to comment further on.”

    Well, it seems her customers sure do.

  • Kelly said:

    Well, I’ve got floor seats tonight and I plan on standing. If there is a problem I’ll just ask to speak to Sarah…

  • Sarah K said:

    I don’t think anyone is saying stand up or get out, but I think it’s unfair to say sit down or get out. What would have happened if we ignored the police officers and kept standing? Would we have been arrested? Kicked out of the concert? Definitely things that should be addressed.

  • Kristy said:

    I didn’t mean to imply that I was taking the “no standing” side; I’ve been to concerts where I stood the whole time and had a blast. I just think that the issue needs to be addressed to the satisfaction of both viewpoints. Everyone pays good money for their seats, and if at all possible, no one should be left feeling disgruntled at the end of a show. Designated standing areas should be considered by the arena management, and I agree that if they think there’s not a problem, they’re not paying much attention.

  • Amanda said:

    I cannot be held responsible for what I might do if someone tells me to sit at a concert. ‘Nuf said.

  • Jana Curl said:

    Wow! What a great response from people on your article. And I am totally with you Kelly – if someone asks me to sit down tonight – I will ask to speak to Sarah H.
    P.S. I looked at my ticket and it doesn’t say anything about not being able to stand. If it is a rule then the arena needs to put it in writing.

  • Jan R. said:

    Wow…seems a ridiculous response from Sarah Haertl to such a significant issue with arena concerts. Clearly, this is an issue with concert goers or we wouldn’t all be chiming in. I haven’t been to the arena yet – when I go to the Michael Buble concert in June I will be basing my opinion of the arena on that experience. I’m giving it one shot! If this is still an issue by then, it will probably be the last event I attend at the arena.

  • Greg said:

    My goodness!!! What a pile of rude concertgoers we’ve got here in Wichita. If you can convince the section around you to stand, have at it. But to block the view just because you feel like it is quite inconsiderate.

  • Ashley Christy said:

    While I don’t think that not standing should bar someone from a concert, calling standing rude and inconsiderate is ridiculous.

  • James said:

    This is why I’m a fan of open seating. Just here for two songs? Then go to the floor for those. Rocking a little too hard? Sit down and take a break in the stands.

  • LeRoy said:

    STAND UP!
    Please don’t kick me out officer. All I am trying to do is jam to what I have jammed to so many times on the radio, that I and so many other people came to see. I’m not trying to ruin anybody’s show by standing, but this is a CONCERT. If you wanted to see a show or movie, GO SIT DOWN AT A THEATRE or stay on your couch where you feel comfortable. I feel like if it’s a #1 song, unquestionably the audience should have every right to stand up. Intrust should have to advertise their policy on standing before we buy our tickets. If not, give me a standing option Intrust Arena, I would be happy to give my seat to anyone who wants it in exchange for somewhere to stand and watch the concert.

  • Steph-honey said:

    One of the docs I work for is very small, not very tall, and she was seated behind a very tall man for the Billy/Elton concert. Several times she stood, so she could just see the stage for a little while, and then she’d sit back down. She wasn’t trying to be rude, and she was worried the entire time she might upset the people behind her. She too, was surprised that her section was sitting. In the past, they’ve always gone to concerts in KC and there, everyone stands, at least for the “hits”, and dances and sings alongs…here nobody did. She said it was very strange. Like nobody was in the mood to be there.

    It really killed the mood for her, I think, and that’s going to really keep the great acts from coming BACK to Intrust. If they percieve the crowd as unenthusiastic and uninterested, if they feel like the mood of the audiences is “I’d rather be at home in my Laz-E-Boy listening to your Greatest Hits CD”, why would they re-book? Def. something to consider!

  • PaturnOne said:

    I havent attended a concert yet at the Arena, but seriously? its 100% sitting?

    Yeah Wichita this isnt going to work.

  • Randy "Writers Dad" said:

    I see both sides of this, however I strongly think that the “sitters” whom also paid $100+ for their seats should have the right to choose when they HAVE to stand in order to see the show! Either way it’s easily contriversial for both the sitters and standers or dancers. Perhaps a happy medium would be standing for applauses after a song, which is realy when everybody that enjoys the show will be standing to show their appreciation and admiration. As far as how to solve this dilemma?….Good queston I don’t think it can be resolved unless standing is for standing tickets only and enforced in the seating sections during songs but allowed within reason after each presentation.

  • Vonda (writer's step mom)sorry if I embarass you!!! said:

    I think it depends on the type of concert you are attending. Some draw “older crowds” such as my age (44) and some, younger.

    Personally, I am quite annoyed that just because everyone on the row in front of me decides to stand, I have no choice but to stand also, as well as the 20 rows above me!

    I paid good money for A SEAT…not “a stand”. If I want to stand, I will buy a ticket on the floor, where I think it is expected.

    I am “old” and usually tired by the end of the day and don’t really want to spend 2 or 3 hours standing to see something that I paid plenty of money to enjoy. I can enjoy a great group just as much sitting as I can standing….SO DON’T FORCE ME TO STAND IF I DON’T WANT TO!!!!!!

    However, if I am taking my kids to the JONAS BROTHERS, then I need to expect to stand, cause…hey….I’m with a bunch of young energetic kids who probably haven’t been at work all day.

  • Cindy said:

    Hard to believe this is actually a debate! The only concert I’ve ever been to where it was considered unacceptable to stand was here in the ICT. I got to attend a FANTASTIC jazz concert @ the Orpheum. It was absolutely rockin’ and almost everyone sat there like we were at the Wichita Symphony! Really??? Do we really want to give artists the message that the people in Wichita have a stick up their..? Musicians get jazzed and perform better when they can tell that their audience is into their music and performance. In return, they put out even more. How can they get that message from us if we’re all sitting down with our hands politely folded in our laps? Get real!

    If certain people are going to insist on having the right to sit at a rock/pop concert like they do at the symphony or opera, then maybe there should be a section where no one is allowed to stand. Just not up front where the musicians might see them and think we are all that dispirited here in midwest.

  • JWG said:

    This is very interesting to me and still not really surprised. I would think if they have screens to show the happenings on the stage would be sufficient if you decide to sit during the concert. And Vonda what is your response if someone you have asked to sit down at the concert you have decided to attend turns to you and says Don’t force me to sit down if I don’t want to!!!! I do have to agree with the comments, you are attending a concert NOT a show!!!

  • harjo said:

    This is a big reason why I hate arena shows. I like smaller venues with less bells and whistles and more about the music. Sitting or even having a chair at a concert is a major turn off to me. I want standing room only, GA right by the stage. I like to dance and yell and sing along. I like to be 10 feet from the artists. I’m there for the music and nothing else. I can’t even imagine what the dynamic of the crowd must have been like at this show if you had people requesting security to have people sit down. This just solidifies why I avoid arena shows and go for the smaller venues or the outdoor festival/shows. I will be attending the DMB show and it will be my first arena concert since the early 90s. I have high expectations but am going to open my mind and just have a great time.

  • Ryan said:

    I’m curious to know what was the sitting/standing dynamic at the Bon Jovi concert…

  • Jana Curl said:

    For Bon Jovi it seemed the floor was all standing. But our section up top – sitters all the way. We got to stand during the BIG hits and when Jon Bon Jovi actually asked us to get up (seriously, we are so lame we need the lead singer to ASK us to get up?).
    Like Steph-honey said – it kind of killed the mood for me. When there is music I dance – and when I can’t I just feel bummed. It makes me scared to buy tickets again. Maybe I will just go to Tulsa – went for Def Lepard and Poison and it was a dancefest 2009 or Sprint Center in KC instead of here for shows so that I can be assured that I will enjoy it.

  • Joley said:

    Thanks for the article. I wasn’t too sure about going to shows at the IBA because I love getting out of town for concerts. Not being able to stand up sealed the deal. I’ll be rocking to Pat Benatar at the Starlight in KC.

  • Jeremy said:

    Ok.. I know I’m late to this party but SIT AT A CONCERT?!?! Are you kidding?! Half the concerts I’ve been to in my life were at venues that didn’t even have seats! I was in a rock band in college and would have been completely deflated if everyone was sitting.
    My brother and I went to U2 in Norman last Fall and stood for over 4 hours. Even during the Black Eyed Peas which we weren’t even excited about.
    I did also go to Winter Jam 2010 at Intrust on Sunday and everyone was standing during all the music. No one was asking anyone to sit down so hopefully it’s not an IBA issue. There would definitely be an issue though if I was at a big show this was going on.

  • Lisa said:

    If u go 2 a concert and u think u r 2 old 2 stand….it is prob. 2 load 4 u as well. Maybe those people should just stay at home and listen 2 the cd’s. I saw ej/bj @ the sprint center (bought my tickets b 4 i knew they were coming here). i payed well over 300 for my tickets and had ok tickets. but i knew what i got when i was bought them. the side i was setting on was boring. the other side was dancing and having a great time. finally a few of us got up and decided we were here 2 have a great time. as far as people telling u 2 sit back down @ intrust. remember they had not been open all that long. also, if someone had made a complaint 2 them they were prob. rude and nasty. think about it they prob here more neg. than post. things. I have been 2 three events there and LOVED it. Sec. was great and friendly. I think we just need 2 remember how far kindness can get u. i can only imagine how much crap they have 2 listen 2!!!!

  • Beth said:

    I am a 50+-year-old music lover, and this Sitting Disease afflicting DooDoh has been a peeve of mine for several years. I know it’s late for this thread, but, hey, I just discovered verbict this week.
    Before the Rolling Stones concert (at WSU), my spouse and I went to one of the higher-dollar sections in the stands to look at the stage and take in the spectacle of the floor (REALLY high-dollar)seating. A guard came up to us and said we’d have to leave the section in 10 minutes, so after a few more minutes, we started up the stairs to go to our own seats. Quite a few people started applauding us (clapping really hard) because we were leaving. Sheesh, we were just visiting, and we left WELL before the show started. I’m very glad I wasn’t seated in that tight-a$$ section!
    At Chicago, I ended up being glad we had nose-bleed seats at C2 because the vast majority of the crowd was on their butts the entire time. Not my idea of a concert!
    I didn’t notice a problem where I was “sitting” at the BonJovi concert, thank the good lord above.
    I just wanted to put my 2 cents in from a veteran concert-goer. I do wonder if the coppers would arrest someone on the grounds of causing a disturbance? Maybe verbict could follow-up with Ms. Heartl to see if this has been addressed by the downtown arena — I doubt it!

  • Beth said:

    Just a note of correction — I meant to write DooDah — it’s a nickname for Wichita.

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